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Post by ToaKaita47 on Mon May 02, 2011 4:18 pm

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Post by Angusm3 on Mon May 02, 2011 4:55 pm

He was funded by Americans and then they turned on him, Good riddance once Bush is gone.

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Post by agentaaa on Mon May 02, 2011 5:00 pm

This is a victory not only for america, but for any nation oppressed by Osama, so I say this is something to celebrate





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Post by Angusm3 on Mon May 02, 2011 5:01 pm

...

what about who America is oppressing?!

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Post by Quantum Rain on Tue May 03, 2011 12:06 pm

What are we oppressing, exactly?

You ask us to sit and let 9/11 happen again and again and again?

And if we fall to that, you know who's next? Your country. Your neighbors. And if it came to that, well, I hope you're criticized just as much, because, hey, that's the truth of it.

Sure, it's all a grey area, but at least the American PEOPLE have the heart and true reason, not the American GOVERNMENT, and you would criticize our desire to protect ourselves?

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Post by Angusm3 on Tue May 03, 2011 12:32 pm

http://www.911sharethetruth.com/

The American people SHOULD fight back, but they should fight the true corruption

and besides, it was probably yet another look alike

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Post by NemesisQ on Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:31 am

Osama wasn't the brain behind the operation, he had a partner that planned all the attacks on the U.S. Instead, Osama was the one that provided the paper works, resources and such to make it sucessful and preceed accordingly.

His partner is still hiding somwhere in a Arabia, egypt or pakistan. Anway thats what i heard on the news. Doubt they are going to find him until next year though.

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Post by Darkwing on Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:22 am

Thing with terrorists is, you kill one and there's two to replace them. Sort of like doing pest control really if you think about it

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Post by agentaaa on Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:39 am

Terroris: guy threatening to damage your own country through violent use of force.

The fact is, a terrorist is just like any other sort of criminal, in that they're impossible to truly get rid of. there's no all encompassing organization, no surrender terms, no clearly defined base which you can attack. And that's why modern armies have trouble fighting them.

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Post by Kati on Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:15 am

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try, and that we shouldn't celebrate our victories when we have them.

Sure, Osama Bin Laden's death won't mean the end of terrorism. But guess what? It's a good damn start. It won't end things. One act alone can't do that. But you don't place one rock in the road and say you've built a wall. You have to place hundreds of rocks there.

Well, this is one of those first rocks.

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Post by Darkwing on Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:39 am

Well say it's this really really large rock...


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Post by agentaaa on Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:24 am

Except attacks of this sort have happened since the founding. As long as some people have a problem with america, or any other nation, what we now label "terrorism" will continue. It's like Murder, or any other crime, and they will never be eliminated.

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Post by NemesisQ on Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:53 am

Murder happens when a man is cornered in a way or another, Terroism is an act of just "idiots" bombarding whatever they want because of their bias belief. Terroism can be prevented, but murder can't.

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Post by agentaaa on Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm

Terrorism is merely an act of terror. There's always going to be some idiot who uses a pipe bomb in a public place. It doesn't have to be arab, it doesn't have to be part of an organization, it doesn't even have to happen in america, specifically. The act of terrorism is man's attempt to bring a society down, and that is something that will never be truly dealt with.

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Post by Darkwing on Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:41 pm

NemesisQ wrote:Murder happens when a man is cornered in a way or another, Terroism is an act of just "idiots" bombarding whatever they want because of their bias belief. Terroism can be prevented, but murder can't.

agentaaa wrote:Terrorism is merely an act of terror. There's always going to be some idiot who uses a pipe bomb in a public place. It doesn't have to be arab, it doesn't have to be part of an organization, it doesn't even have to happen in america, specifically. The act of terrorism is man's attempt to bring a society down, and that is something that will never be truly dealt with.


I'd be careful with your terminology as I wouldn't really classify them as idiots. See there was an interesting scene in the TV show Lost once that put it in an interesting perspective. If I find the time I'll youtube it and post it. See being an idiot is drinking pop. You know it's bad for you and you have no good reason to continue. Committing a terrorist act has a fair bit of planning, forethought and importantly, motivation/reason. Mind you I'm definitely not condoning it, but I'd be careful with your generalizations.

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Post by agentaaa on Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:55 pm

Well, that depends too. I remember reading an incident with an Arab firing an RPG, and killing the guys behind him with the backblast, ude to not knowing how to work one. The ones that are a true danger are the ones highlighted, but... Well, it's like youtube. There's a bunch of well written movies, with great graphics and the like, but there's also the youtube poop. The youtube poop's just not worth mentioning, is all.

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Post by Darkwing on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:55 am

Yeah, but again, that would be a case of ignorance and not idiocy per se. Soemthing I feel I should add to the murder statement made by Nemesis, is that murder doesn't always occur when someone is "cornered," some people simply do it for fun. Motivation for murder is an interesting thing really because there are so many different contributing factors to it to say that people murder simply because they're cornered is really only a very minor partial truth. At least I think so anyways Razz

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Post by NemesisQ on Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:15 am

Hmm.... well than I'll apologize for that, as i forgot people murder for fun.
But I'm not for the term "idiot", it's just the way i identify them as. As for ignorant... mm not so much. I would think those grown ups know what their doing when they set a gernade in the subway station.

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Post by Darkwing on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:20 pm

Well I'm essentially a grown up an don't have the faintest clue how to use any form of weaponry really. You have to remember, a lot of times, these are just ordinary people that came from ordinary lives

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Post by NemesisQ on Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:25 am

What you say are true, but im not buying any ignorance coming from adults that commit murder or terroism. Ordinary people really are "ordinary", they always have been.

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Post by Darkwing on Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:30 am

There is no ignorance of the act, but ignorance of how to use some of the equipment is very common

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Post by agentaaa on Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:00 am

oh, indeed. Terrorist is a broad term, and if you, for instance, said to yourself "I hate [insert country here] I wish to harm it and/or its citizens, and act on that, you have become a terrorist. Just as an example here, you may be aware of what you're doing, that doesn't mean your ability to do it, or plan for it, got any better. Heck, you don't even have to be an adult to become a terrorist, just look at the middle east, where there have been known to be groups in Arab countries that recruit minors, specifically, to stage terrorist attacks on Israel(And likely the other way 'round, too.)

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