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Federation Vs Empire debate

Post by SSJ Data on Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:27 am

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This is a cool program i found
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Asteroids.html

by this calculator a full power phaser from the Enterprise D at optimal range could destroy an asteroid made of nickel iron with a diameter of 850 meter depending giving a Galaxy class star ship a firepower of 4.5 megatons

While one energy bolt from an ISD can destroy the same type of asteroid with a diameter of 591 meters that would take 1.5 megatons of energy

now just because an ISD's weapons are 2 1/3 that doesn’t mean the Empire is out of the fight I’ve calculated the total fire power of an ISD at somewhere around 42 megatons (28 TL's) where as a Galaxy class got about 36 megatons (8 phaser arrays)

heres the site with all my info http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWhi2.html

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Re: Federation Vs Empire debate

Post by SSJ Data on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:57 am

The Romulan war, The Klingon Cold War, The Dominion War. And those are just the official ones

I woulds say edge Federation in the tactical area
Reasons 1 maneuverability and speed. A federation vessel would run circles around a Star Destroyers.

2) fleet Sizes (not total ship count) The largest ever Empirical fleet was only 27 ships big, while the tenth fleet was 113 and when combined with part of the 2nd and 3rd fleets totaled over 600. But if the Empire could catch on early the might have the edge. (Remember we aren't counting anything but Federation and Empire) Granted a single federation ship against a SSD or the DS would fail utterly.

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Post by agentaaa on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:47 pm

the oth thing is that the empire is well, evil, and thus would be willing to use tactics the feddies wouldn't, such as viral agents that the federation hasn't dealt with yet. Also, the empire has many assassins, and could cripple the federation with those. until they started beginningn to lose noticably, the federation would not uuse assassins either, and then Picard or some other honor filled captain would stop them or something.

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Post by SSJ Data on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:38 pm

The federation (if they used assassins) whould be far better at it (Remeber Dax and the super sniper). and plus it would be nearly impossible to get an assassin on a federation ship. (Not to say the cant destroy the council.

The biggest thing in the Federations favor is well their the Good guys meaning the HAVE to win

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Re: Federation Vs Empire debate

Post by agentaaa on Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:59 am

I notice the "good guys HAVE to win"" policy didn't work out too well for the jedi.


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Post by SSJ Data on Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:17 am

But they did win in the End

Joking aside.

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Re: Federation Vs Empire debate

Post by agentaaa on Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:57 am

The empire has a lot more raw materials, making it much easier for them to survive a prolonged war







On another note, considering they have had way more time, star wars reallly should have been more advanced compared to star trek.

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Re: Federation Vs Empire debate

Post by SSJ Data on Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:15 am

but the point is there not

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Post by mr33mean on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:42 am

Plus the fact that if the federation were losing, Q would just show up for picard and fix itXD

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Re: Federation Vs Empire debate

Post by SSJ Data on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:57 am

Where not including Q

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Post by agentaaa on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:26 am

1. i wasnt saying they should be more advanced in this discussion, just pointing out an ironic fact.

2. As far as I have seen, q would make more trouble than he is worth

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Post by SSJ Data on Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:24 am

is Q part of the federation?

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Post by agentaaa on Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:53 am

no. he is in an order of his own, and a being of more power than any of the forces at the feddies or empires disposal. He has no desire to ever be part of the federation, and, i must say, a total douche.

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Post by SSJ Data on Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:55 am

but a lovable douche

My point was this is Federation Vs Empire
not Star Trek Vs Empire

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Post by agentaaa on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:26 am

Exactly! On another note, the empire has so many wars going on, that they might have better defences, since most of its worlds already have combat machines and starships, while the federation would need to mobilize and move most of its troops and ships into position. Then again, the federation IS faster, and would move quicker.

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Re: Federation Vs Empire debate

Post by SSJ Data on Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:48 am

Only in sub light. They can't maintain there faster potential as long as the Empire

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Post by agentaaa on Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:34 pm

The Empire has a more structured system, and Has a chain of command that is very hard to break. Unless you kill a large number of leaders and officers, they will always have someone to be in charge. The federation has such versatility within starships, but I don't see as much of it in the bigger command positions.

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